War Robots

After The Beacon Rush (WR Test-Server 3.0.0.463)

Shawn played the test server this weekend, and has some thoughts about Beacon Rush...

Whaaaaaa? My Thursday was already feeling like a Friday when an e-mail for a War Robots 3.9.0.463 arrived in my inbox. A surprise test-server? Nope. Just an early test server message sent early. The parameters were still the same for my personal time-zone.

During the weekend of July 29th and 30th, testers were asked to look at the new UI (user interface), the Beacon Rush Game Mode and new paint-jobs for the Cossack, G.I. Patton, Fujin, and Fury.Well, the paint-jobs were not included after all. Since they were for the same robots as last week then I’m assuming the paint schemes were the same from before. No new comments on them. You either like that sort of thing and buy them or you don’t.

The new UI is getting to the point that any changes are small, if even at all. Overall, the new UI is fresh, looks great and besides a few bugs or quirks that are popping up, I’m sure others would agree with me when saying they are looking forward to it going live. Since I have been playing War Robots (Nov. 2015) the UI has been the same. A change is long past due.

The Beacon Rush game mode had a noticeable change with squads being disabled and the location of re-spawned units in relation to the captured beacons. Instead of spawning directly on the beacon, you are placed near the beacon. I’m sure someone could nitpick it to death in some ways, but it seemed like a reasonable feature.

One factor of the Beacon Rush game mode that has occurred to me however, I feel I must openly state: in this proposed game mode, league standings are not affected by the games outcome. No league points lost, none gained. Undoubtedly though, participation in other game modes will surely take away from the available pool of players used in match-making leading to further disparities in league-based battles.

As seen within the online community, post after post of pilots showing a mixing of leagues that lead to noticeable differences in scores and further frustration to those pilots that base their War Robots playing experience closely to their standing in the leagues.

According to what has been relayed to us from WR representatives concerning why you are seeing Diamond and Champion level players in the same match, might only get worse with the introduction of additional game modes.

When new game modes become available, unless they appear exactly as they do on test-server with all equipment appearing at a certain level, to play Beacon Rush will only mean that a player is subjecting themselves to a free-for-all match that’s unlike anything that pilots have ever seen with no match-making algorithm at all. Not an equipment based match-maker… not a league system match-maker either!

For instance, a level 20 pilot in Gold League with a hanger of level 5 equipment could find themselves facing anyone including a Level 30 Champion player with a totally maxed, five slot hangar.

Sounds kinda scary to me and everyone else that don’t have a maxed, five slot hangar and is starving for Silver to upgrade everything and being out-matched time and time again in regular league matches.

After much deliberation, I cannot say with good conscience that additional game modes will really solve any issues that exist within the game unless the game modes appear exactly as they appear on the test-server, with all equipment appearing at Level 8.

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But I’ll always have my Rogatka…

51 comments on “After The Beacon Rush (WR Test-Server 3.0.0.463)

  1. New UI is as good as a massacre in a kindergarden.

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    • Seems like a bit of an extreme thing to say concerning a new UI!

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      • Sorry for double posting though, I couldn’t figure how to do that using my FB at first.
        Why I think new UI is extremely bad:
        1) People with not ideal sight (older ones, too) got hard time seeing those colours
        2) It is REALLY messy when more than 3 bots gather at your crosshair. Absolutely no use of the crosshair, everything is mixed together. So it would be as good NOT to have a crosshair\enemy health\names\brackets at all
        3) The new UI obviously took some precious development\design efforts, time and money. We could have got some really cool stuff instead of this “new” UI.
        4) You stated in the article that “others would agree”. From my standpoint I see that only kids are happy to see new UI because it’s glowing. Please do not assume other people opinion in the future, it is not polite and not smart.
        5) The only single thing that is good about UI is a bigger buttons. But nevertheless “Target lock” is still located 1 pixel apart from “Fire everything” button. This is plain stupid and kinda spoils the only good thing about the new UI.

        That’s why I think it is bad, bad, bad and should never happened.

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  2. I prefer the older version better. The newer UI isn’t more convenient.

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  3. New UI is very very bad. Please don’t do that. Beacon bar is tiny. Fonts are outlined and underlined and they mess with aim. New player icons are HUGE. Colors are faded, it’s VERY hard to see.

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    • Perhaps I would feel differently if I wasn’t playing on an iPad but regardless, the new UI isnt my choice.

      War Robots according to me would definitely look and be different.

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  4. Dirty Harry

    Yeah the new UI is freshly warm govno (Feces in russian) 🙂 looks “great” if you are on Xanax or any other antidepressant I agree with you but you forgot to mention what are you using to think that way?

    And the few “minor” bugs like no response with the ability button or opposite feedback when using the movement stick controls is not noticeable at all for sure (I’m being sarcastic here just for your clarification).

    The colors are washed out without contrast, uncomfortable to look at and very difficult to identify what’s really there.

    And don’t let me start on the tiny square crosshair aim in the center with the annoying and obstructing the view animation (the indicator of successful target hit).

    Finally I found this poll thread from the forum. See for yourself what other players think about the “great” new UI:
    http://war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/12268/classic-hud-ui-switch-option

    No offense and peace

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    • You have a point, i didnt explain my use of an iPad. Im one of the three people in the United States that doesn’t have a cell phone.

      I failed to mention the bugs at length due to the fact that I know theyvwere out there, but I didnt experience the bugs. After all, this was a TEST server and WR admitted to working out bugs. It’s only fair to give them a chance.

      Im fully aware that lots of WR players in the WR forum you mention are displeased with WR. Im a member of the forum also… LOTS of people are overly critical and ultra-nitpicky of WR… many times, imo, to irritating and irrational levels.

      My views reflect my opinion and even perhaps represent a small percentage of players. Its hard to say from my basement office at M*S… but at least I have a red Swingline Stapler!

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  5. Mother Teresa

    You are saying that the new UI looks good and fresh? I DISAGREE! It’s unuseful in it’s current iteration and creates bad USER EXPERIENCE.

    And the few “minor” bugs like no response with the ability button or opposite feedback when using the movement stick controls are not making it better either.

    The colors are washed out without contrast, uncomfortable to look at and very difficult to identify what’s really there.

    And don’t let me start on the tiny square crosshair aim in the center with the annoying and obstructing the view animation (the indicator of successful target hit). Why is that there?

    Finally I found this poll thread from the forum. See for yourself what other players think about the “great” new UI:
    http://war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/12268/classic-hud-ui-switch-option

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  6. Mother Teresa

    In addition The Battle Log stays unseen at the bottom center with it’s tiny font size.

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    • Im not sure a ‘Battle log’ is really needed when the ultimate judge of a great, noteworthy game is the results screen. Perhaps the battle log could be therenor in another viewable place that is better equipped for screenshots.

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  7. Blah, not liking this new UI. I’d rather keep the existing one. I can’t believe PIX will release this new one so soon. It still looks like something that should stay in testing. The colors are washed out pretty badly. Also, for some reason, the targeting reticle is hard to pick up. When I’m trying to target a bot that is in a busy sort of environment, I can’t tell who I’m aiming at. And the beacon bar is hard to read. No, this new UI is not what players need right now.

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    • Until it goes live theres a chance it wont go live. I like it better, you dont…cWill I stop playing if it doesn’t go live? Nope. Will you stop playing WR if it does?

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  8. Mother Teresa

    Just wait for the storm of pissed players that Pixonic will create with that UI after it hits the Live Servers. As you may know only a small portion of the user base is using the Test Server.

    I imagine how many players will ditch the game because it will be rendered unplayable at that time.

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    • Apparently there is a very strong and ever-present population of upset WR players that seem to sometimes over-emphasize their importance in the grand scheme of things that regularly confuse their opinions with facts.

      Im interested to see how many people stop playing WR over the new UI too because I think thats an over-reaction and stubborn response.

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  9. Little John

    You are saying that the new UI looks good and fresh? I disagree! It’s unusful and creates bad USER EXPERIENCE.

    And the few “minor” bugs like no response with the ability button or opposite feedback when using the movement stick controls are not making it better either.

    The colors are washed out without contrast, uncomfortable to look at and very difficult to identify what’s really there.

    The Battle Log stays unseen at the bottom center with it’s tiny font size.

    And don’t let me start on the tiny square crosshair aim in the center with the annoying and obstructing the view animation (the indicator of successful target hit).

    Finally I found this poll thread from the forum. See for yourself what other players think about the “great” new UI:
    http://war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/12268/classic-hud-ui-switch-option

    Just wait for the storm of pissed players that Pixonic will create with that UI after it hits the Live Servers. As you may know only a small portion of the user base is using the Test Server.
    I imagine how many players will ditch the game because it will be rendered unplayable at that time.

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    • Hello Little John. do you know Dirty Harry and Mother Teresa? Because you each say the same thing the exact same way!

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      • He might have thought that his comment didn’t went through so he tried a few times

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      • Gentle Panda

        Yeah, I’ve been a savage, sorry for that. Anyway hope I made my point clear. Sorry for the multi comments again.

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    • Ashe Sterling

      Probably a concentrated fire tactic: use different nicknames, but copy/paste plus a bit of modifications to make it look several people are pissed instead of one. But I think that the majority of testers are ticked off by the new UI, I haven’t seen more than one of two positive comments so far.

      Maybe that you have different tastes, MiksMek? I would have taken a go for a sakura skin on my Butch for 14k Au if I had the chance, to be honest.

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      • Everyone has different taste and preferences. THIS TINE I find myself agreeing with sonething thats on the horizon (UI) in the past, I didnt (League System) but that didnt stop WR from doing it!

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  10. Smith Wesson

    The new UI is far from better than the current one.

    – Bugs like no response with the ability button or opposite feedback when using the movement stick controls are not making it better either.

    – The colors are washed out without contrast, uncomfortable to look at and very difficult to identify what’s really there.

    – The Battle Log stays unseen at the bottom center with it’s tiny font size.

    – The smaller square crosshair aim in the center with the annoying and obstructing the view animation (the indicator of successful target hit).

    This is one of many threads from the forum that shows what other players think about the new UI:
    http://war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/12268/classic-hud-ui-switch-option

    Beacon rush needs more tweaks too.

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  11. Smith Wesson

    MiksMek, please delete my rude comment for Dirty Harry and include the Mother Teresa one or Smith Wesson. Sorry for the double/triple comments I’ve been a little to emotional at first and then I censored myself later

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  12. Stig, in response to your numbered post;

    1) I have vision problems also. I suffer from chronic migrains with color-altering Auras… Actually, the current UI and its colors are harder for me to see on most maps… Maybe thats why I’m so into the new one?

    2) The same messines you describe here within the new UI, I seenin the existing UI as well.

    3) Ues, it did take time to create the new UI and sure, if a new UI wasnt worked on it could have beennused on another project but there is no guarantee that you or anyone else would approve of how any WR developers spent any of their time on any idea.

    4) Others DO agree with me about my viewpoint concerning the UI… Its just not kids themselves either! I’m currently 44 1/2 years old although I have tried to remain young at heart. I’m NOT assuming anything for anyone else. I honestly haven’t ran across a team mate or other person I am FB connected with on WR saying anything bad about the UI. Sure, not everyone loves it… Im speaking for myself and my peers if they agree, you are speaking for you and your peers that agree with you. Im not assuming that you are assuming on the assumtion that I am assuming for the entire community in general. I ambthe ladt person you will hear boasting about intelligence. No, I’m not smart, but I am far from dumb.

    5) You are complaining about a 1 Pixel border? Each to their own. Serms a bit nitpicky to me but each to their own. Are there things in the UI I dont like and would change? Sure there is… but like you, I guess I will just wait and see what happens.

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    • Okay, let’s play the numbers game.
      Places where people don’t like the new ui:
      Discord channels. Writer’s contest discord channel – the guys who wrote basically the “iron library” for the game (I come from there), we love and know the game.
      Deplorables discord channel – that’s the “One thousand skulls” clan official channel, plus extra https://www.onethousandskulls.com guys from Champions league, who take the game very seriously.
      Facebook – let’s not take that into account, it’s ranting all the time.
      Forum vote thread – please take time to re-read what’s all that about. People prefer CURRENT over NEW one.
      http://war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/12268/

      So maybe your circle of friends prefer the new one, but majority of people don’t.
      And EVEN if the new one “just as bad” as the current one – why do Pix spent resources for doing that?

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      • There is no doubt that many people dont like the UI and many peopke that do.

        Just because, as you point out several places where devoted players dont like the UI doesnt mean that their opinions out-weigh all others. My opinion about the UI doesnt out-weigh anyone elses. My opinion is mine, yours is yours and we are each entitled to think differently. Right?

        I guess you are a Writers Contest winner and member of the Dischord channel created to help organize the Iron Library. That is great. Awesone job. I am guessing that since you and others there dont like the UI then you have been vocal about your disapproval there.

        Since WR seem to be going ahead with the UI then you are perhaps feeling like your opinion holds more weight with WR than most others, like mine. I guess it could… I dont know and honestly, I dont care. Im speaking my mind about the UI in my blog post… Im using tools available to me to voice my opinion and view representing MY peers. You are doing the same with YOURS.

        Dont overemphasize your importance in the grand scheme of things. WR is ultimately going to do what WR is going to do wether you, I or anyone likes it or not.

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  13. Stig, Im not saying that it is imperative or wise for an update to encourage people to stop pkaying. What Im saying is, regardless of how you or I or anyone feels about the game, essentially they will do what they want to do. How much do you hate this new UI? Enough to stop playing if it appears as is in the live server? Will I stop playing WR if the new UI isnt on the live server? Nope. If I have to put up with the UI as it exist, I will. I have my opinion of which isnt golden, its my opinion.

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    • Wow. That was discouraging.
      I though you are writing the articles here because you love the game, and want it to become better.
      So Pixonic just keep on making whatever they like, you basically eat it, like or not, and keep on playing?
      Sounds pretty much like small totalitarism country to me.

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      • Being discouraged is a relative term.

        I do love WR, I think its a great game. I devote lots of my tine to it. Of course I want things to become better. No obe is forcing me to play. I can either do test-servers, answer WR based questions about the game and share ideas with WR that they can listen to and developnor not, or I can not play the game.

        Im not a shareholder of Pixonic or mail.ru, Im not an employee of them. I make a conscious decision to play the game and participate in its online community.

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  14. Ashe Sterling

    It is in my personal opinion that the new UI isn’t good looking at all. Here are my reasons.

    1) Funny alien-ish colors. WR’s charm comes from the simplistic weapons but the endless combo possibilities it offered. The Plasma family can be accepted, as today’s science can allow that kind of thing. The Zeus is already borderline alien, but the Scourge is definitively not from this planet.

    2) Can’t see anything. Target hit animation blocks off my view on my target, and nametags too big. They should add something so that when you target-lock something, every other nametag fades to a more transparent blue/red. It would make the pilot feel more focused, and would definitively help him/her see what he/she is shooting at.

    3) Hullpoint bar too small. Before you can just use glance up and estimate how much percentage you have remaining. Now, it’s so small that I have to look at it for a good second, and when I look back down I’m already destroyed or badle crippled.

    4) Beacon Rush mode sounds fun, but it is very direct where tide-turning dosn’t even exist. As soon as the enemy has your home Beacon, your team is done. But positive points for the re-deployment cooldown.

    5) The UI reminds me of the new GEKKO XX design, which makes me think that the game is for small kids that like “pew-pew” lasers. Colors really not realistic. I think that even a full pink and white interface would be better. Long live unicorns!

    If any of you have a different opinion, know that I respect it and that not everyone can agree with anyone.

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    • I definitely respect other opinions… Thanks for expressing yours,

      1) I actually see Zeus ahd Scourge as extenstionsbof concepts explored by Nikolai Tesla and his ‘Death-Ray’… Im sort of surprised there isnt a Rail-Gun yet in WR with the ability to shoot through objects which of course would cone with a majorly long cool-down.

      2) I can actually see things better with the new UI than the older one. Especially since the useless-to-me battle log has been moved.

      3) I tend to look at the HP barbonly when I know I can do it safely. Otherwise, if I’m shooting or manuvering until I cant.

      4) I think Beacon Rush is fun too but I definitely see some concerns for it and other game modes in thevfuture concerning MM pools and even the creation of silver silver-farms… I goninto that fear more in-depthly on a post within the WR Forum,

      5) Honestly, I know lots more players over 18 that play WR than under 18. In the multi-clan unit I am a part of, roughly 2% are under 18. I would like to see some data on this subject though.

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      • Ashe Sterling

        Acknownledged every point, except number 5:

        What I meant by small kids are little guys under 10 that like totally unrealistic weapon designs. Honestly the GEKKO XX now look like a toy gun.

        On a side note, I’m myself a few years under 18. Other people my age may think the opposite way as I do, so I might be wrong.

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  15. Ashe Sterling

    Oh, and the battle log is too small. I would love to see who destroyed me, and who is getting destroyed by who. It can be tweaked so that it can be shown or hidden. And it can record killstreaks.

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  16. The battle log does little for me and my playing experience but I think it would serve best as something viewable and accessible from the Results screen.

    When you are destroyed, the camera view shows the person that killed you which would allow you to hunt them down if revenge is a motivator in your battle style.

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    • Ashe Sterling

      Good point, but I would like to see who eliminated my teammate too. Revenge isn’t really my style, but I do retaliate a lot when one of my teammate or clanmate gets destroyed.

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      • Ashe Sterling

        And it is useful to see what kind of weapon each player is using. At the moment the S-25 Tulumbass looks so much like the E-SG Taran from distance that I cannot tell which one it is until I get hit by it.

        And it is fun to use it for recording the odd Zenit/Noricum kill.

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      • When playing WR I tend to focus on the enemy as a group rather than individually. I feel its important to me methodical in approaching the enemy and revenge or retaliation may cloud my decision making.

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  17. Stig, if you yourself can see how the error could be made, then It was just an error on my part and no attempt was made to “twist facts” as you say. Sheesh. You are obviously really passiobate about the new UI. Really, really, really passionate. Im sorry I misread the post on the forum and I hope everything works out for you and at least obe of your profiles finds sonething in the UI that you can grow to like because according to what WR is saying, the new UI is definitely coming wether you, I or anyone likes it or not.

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    • I am posting comment here to address it to you, personally.
      And the reason is you twisting the facts.
      This is the quote:
      “Overall, the new UI is fresh, looks great and besides a few bugs or quirks that are popping up, I’m sure others would agree with me when saying they are looking forward to it going live.”

      Others are not impressed. Not looking forward. And don’t want to agree with you. So you are making assumption of other people’s opinion, and when people come and tell you in the comment section that they don’t like it – you just let it slide with:
      “It’s coming like it or not”.

      If you re-read my comments, I am not trying to contact Pixonic through you, I did that already through their reps, and they most probably wouldn’t listen. That is not the question I am trying to settle here.

      I feel cheated by you, because I am the “other” and I don’t agree with you. I will tell it once again in layman terms – you are lying in your article, that offends me and I think you should change the text.

      Why is this important, you may ask? Well, because you are working as a propaganda machine here, forming the opinion of players, making them believe that everybody likes the new UI and there’s nothing that can be done. Like in the Asch’s experiments.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments

      If YOU like the new ui – it’s fine, I won’t even bother to leave a comment. You got a right to an opinion. But by telling lies in your article you are taking away opinion of other people. And that’s not to be taken easy.

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      • Oh Stig… I am speaking my opinion and just as you know many people who dont like it, I know many who do.

        Im not assuming anything. I lije the UI I know others do too. Im looking forward to it, others are looking forward to it too. You may jot but remember, everyone has a different opinion. I ecpressed mine, you expressed yours.

        Im sire you probably contacted Pixonic about the UI. Im girssing several times. You voiced your concern. Just because they are seemingly going ahead with it doesnt mean thatbyour opinion doesnt count… just because many others like it and havent chose the methods you use to voice your opinion doesnt mean that they dont exist.

        You hobestly cant feel any more cheated my me concerning my opinion than I can feel cheated by youvexpressing yours. Wecsee things differently, thats all. Im not trying to convince anyone that Im right. Im honestly speaking for me and those I interact with regularly. Just as you are speaking for your peers, right?

        Me? A propaganda machine you say? What is my motive for such propaganda? No obe tells me whattovwrite on Mech*Spectrum… Im not on the Writers Contest Discord channel lie you say you are. I dont own any stock in Pixonic… All I got from anyone for writing this bit about the test server is flack from you!

        The FACT is that it looks like the UI is going to go live sometime. Thats jot my decision, its pixonics. Despite other things that have happened in the game that I have endured through, the UI is nothing!

        Im NOT going to change my opinion and if theres a test server this weekend, I highly suggest you look here to see what I say about that or dont. Thats your choice concerning anything I write. Thanks for reading.

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  18. Ashe Sterling

    At this point, I’m just sticking around to see Stig Russlan and MiksMek bite chunks out of each other. It is an interesting debate that they are having, really.

    Would be interesting to see who wins, writer or reader.

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    • Why, I am not going to continue the debate. I am not looking for a conflict. Made my point, saw the reaction,unsubscribed from the MechSpectrum, moving on with life.
      Too bad GepardDiary is no more, it was a good one.

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      • Well, Gepard Diary is Mech*Spectrum now… Dred77 is at the helm so really, you are still drawing your own battle-lines.

        Ashe, I dont know how many times I can say the same thing over but I guess it is at least twice for every profile Stig has used by now.

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      • Ashe Sterling

        Stig, I think that you can still enjoy Gepard Diary 2.0 by just reading articles written by authors that you like. No point in abandoning such an useful asset. This website helped me win a lot of games.

        I think that you both have to bend the way you put out your points, if both sides are not willing to move, the situation is going to be stuck there. Miks, you were a tad bit too stubborn about your point of view, and small-minded. Stig, you were a bit too aggresively defending your own point and quite offending.

        If you two were diplomats from opposite sides, we’re looking at a war right now.

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  19. Don’t like the new UI either. Agree that Pix is probably just going to shove it out there. It’s too bad.

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